Showing posts with label Copenhagen. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Copenhagen. Show all posts

Tuesday, December 8, 2009

Making Sense of Emission Trading

At last there is real effort being made by media to understand Climate Change and one of the mechanisms proposed to deal with it: Emissions Trading. There seems to me a sea change happening. The public want to know more. They want to understand more.

It's good that PM Key is off to Copenhagen.
And it's good that China and the USA seem to have made significant decisions about their response to Climate Change just days before Copenhagen. All good.

I guess I've always been something of a skeptic. An Emissions Trading Sceptic. From time to time I'll run something here that throws a bit of light on the subject. In this blog I'll try to explain what emissions trading is (using stuff from the experts), and introduce some of the difficulties:

Explanation of Emissions Trading

This comes from an Australian economist writer for several Aussie newspapers. Peter Martin. It's a helpful explanation of how it might work for power stations in Australia....

"...To simplify, let’s suppose that the only emitters of carbon in Australia are power stations. Lets say that this year they have been emitting 100 units each.

If an emissions licensing and trading scheme were introduced next year the government might only hand out enough licences to allow the emission of 90 units.

Obviously each power station could comply if it cut its emissions by 10 per cent. It would be the same as if the government had legislated for a station-by-station 10 per cent cut.

But it would be a bad way of cutting total emissions by 10 per cent. Some power stations would find it difficult if not impossible to meet the10 per cent cut. They would be crippled. Others might find it easy. At little cost they might even be able to cut by 20 per cent.

Without trading in permits the stations that found it hard to cut would suffer, while the stations that could easily cut by more than required would be given no reason to do so.

Trading removes those problems. In the language of the economists, whatever the target for cutting emissions is, trading allows industry to meet it in the least damaging way possible.

Here’s how. A firm that can easily cut its emissions (perhaps because its coal-fired generator is nearing the end of its life and it can easily be replaced with a wind one) will find it has permits to spare. It might have been issued nine but only need seven, having two to sell.

Another firm, that can’t cut emissions without incurring a tremendous cost will find it cheaper to buy spare permits from the firm that no longer needs them. Its cost of producing power will go up but by nowhere near as much as it would have had it had no choice but to meet a target. Over time that firm will find that business case for switching to cleaner technology increasingly persuasive. But not all at once.

The firm that can easily cut emissions will have discovered a new way of making money, and the cleaner it makes its business the more money it will make. As a former Liberal Party leader used to say, it will become “incentivated”.

That’s the theory. It was put to the test in 1990 in the United States when President George Bush senior signed into law a new act designed to combat acid rain, caused by the emission of sulphur.

In a sharp break with the approach of the past the Bush administration issued annual permits to allow the continued emission of sulphur, but not quite as much as before. Then it encouraged the Chicago Board of Trade to set up an exchange on which those permits could be traded.

Each year the administration handed out fewer annual permits. Over ten years the price of a permit on the exchange climbed from $US100 to $US800 a ton. The polluters who could cut back easily found themselves rich. Those that couldn’t found business increasingly expensive — but not so expensive as to force them out of business straight away.

Over that decade sulphur emissions halved throughout the US. In some parts of the country acid rain declined 25 per cent. The annual saving in healthcare costs was said to top $US20 billion.

That’s the promise held out the promoters of emissions trading schemes for carbon.
Any the wiser? I hope so. Now here's a few comments from the other side. I quite like this one from John Blakeley that appeared in NZ Herald 19th November this year. He writes:
Carbon Trading: an indulgence we can't afford. He asks why parts of NZ's economy should be given credits for their sins of emission. "....Michael Kinsley, writing in Time Magazine in an article entitled: 'Credit for bad behaviour' in July 2007, suggested that the purchase of carbon credits to offset greenhouse gas emissions could be compared with the Middle Ages practice of buying indulgences for the forgiveness of sins. Martin Luther King (1487-1546) was a leader of the Protestant Reformation in Germany. His idea of revolt occurred when he saw indulgences being sold, a practice he openly condemned - leading to his eventually being excommunicated. In a similar manner to indulgences, purchasing carbon credits to offset greenhouse gas emssions can be seen as an alternative to making the hard decisions to reduce emissions. It is much easier for politicians to tell people they must pay a little extra for their electricity and petrol than to try and persuade them that they must cut back on their energy use...."

"...So from July 1, 2010, we will be asked to pay more for our electricity and petrol for a scheme which is likely to have no effect on reducing our gross greenhouse gas emissions. And it is unlikely that the average consumer is going to be happy to pay this extra cost as "indulgence money", especially at a time of considerable constraint on wage increases...."

"...I believe that it is now time to "go back to square one" and start again, to define the best, most cost-effective way for New Zealand to control future increases in greenhouse gas emissions. Purchasing indulgences by way of carbon credits is not the best way to go." (John Blakeley is a programme director in the Department of Civil Engineering at Unitec in Auckland.)


That's an interesting argument. It's one I feel empathy with because - for me - the important thing has to be actual reductions in carbon emissions. Not just some scheme which has got the banks, financiers, money lenders and economists all in a lather. Some of the other arguments are more sophisticated and go to the heart of actually implementing emissions trading. There is some very interesting information in Wikipedia for example (whose entries seem to be changing minute by minute as Copenhagen approaches) :

Emissions Trading Scheme Critics

Critics argue that emissions trading does little to solve pollution problems overall, since groups that do not pollute sell their conservation to the highest bidder. Overall reductions would need to come from a sufficient reduction of allowances available in the system....

Critics of carbon trading, such as Carbon Trade Watch, argue that it places disproportionate emphasis on individual lifestyles and carbon footprints, distracting attention from the wider, systemic changes and collective political action that needs to be taken to tackle climate change. Groups such as the Corner House have argued that the market will choose the easiest means to save a given quantity of carbon in the short term, which may be different to the pathway required to obtain sustained and sizable reductions over a longer period, and so a market-led approach is likely to reinforce technological lock-in. For instance, small cuts may often be achieved cheaply through investment in making a technology more efficient, where larger cuts would require scrapping the technology and using a different one. They also argue that emissions trading is undermining alternative approaches to pollution control with which it does not combine well, and so the overall effect it is having is to actually stall significant change to less polluting technologies....

The Financial Times published an article about cap-and-trade systems which argued that "Carbon markets create a muddle" and "...leave much room for unverifiable manipulation"...


And it is the mechanics of manipulation and actual implementation that make interesting reading as well. From wikipedia again:


Measuring, reporting and verification (MRV)

Meaningful emission reductions within a trading system can only occur if they can be measured at the level of operator or installation and reported to a regulator.... For greenhouse gases all trading countries maintain an inventory of emissions at national and installation level; in addition, the trading groups within North America maintain inventories at the state level through The Climate Registry. For trading between regions these inventories must be consistent, with equivalent units and measurement techniques.

In some industrial processes emissions can be physically measured by inserting sensors and flowmeters in chimneys and stacks, but many types of activity rely on theoretical calculations for measurement. Depending on local legislation, these measurements may require additional checks and verification by government or third party auditors, prior or post submission to the local regulator.....

Enforcement

Another significant, yet troublesome aspect is enforcement. Without effective MRV and enforcement the value of allowances are diminished. Enforcement can be done using several means, including fines or sanctioning those that have exceeded their allowances. Concerns include the cost of MRV and enforcement and the risk that facilities may be tempted to mislead rather than make real reductions or make up their shortfall by purchasing allowances or offsets from another entity. The net effect of a corrupt reporting system or poorly managed or financed regulator may be a discount on emission costs, and a (hidden) increase in actual emissions.


So, going back to the Aussie economist's simple example, someone would have to actually measure what comes out of the exhaust chimneys of each of these power stations. All the time. And keep detailed records. And these measurements would need to be credible and independent. It's the whole thing about verification. The devil in emissions trading is in the implementation detail. Sounds good to economists, but becomes more and more of a practical nightmare the closer you get to nuts and bolts implementation.

Imagine doing it with cows!

That's enough for now. Just to get your interest, and perhaps suggestions for further explanation or "making simple"....

Sunday, October 4, 2009

Toward Better Cycling in Auckland...




The Tamaki accident has galvanised action and attention around cycling in Auckland. I will not try to add much to that in this blog, but I will provide a few bits and pieces:

1) the media info pulled together by Mark Bracey for Cycle Action Auckland (who have been doing a magnificent job through this period. Congratulations.)
2) a couple of nice cycling pics from Copenhagen (above)
3) two video clips about cycling I shot and put up on youtube a while ago
4) .... and you MUST go and add your name to the Lake Road cycling lane petition (see bottom).

1) Cycle Action and Tamaki Drive

The team at Cycle Action Auckland have been very busy. Barb Cuthbert (Deputy Chair CAA) and Barb Insull (Secretary CAA) have been highly active in the media, and it has been excellent to see would-be-super-mayor John Banks put on the spot on this critical issue. Here are some bits and pieces:

27 Sept: Our thoughts and best wishes go out to the cyclists and the families of the victims of the accident on Tamaki Drive on Saturday.This is an all too familiar tale that many of us are acutely aware of. As "the voice for cyclists" in Auckland, Cycle Action has been active this weekend in ensuring that the people who choose to cycle are fairly represented.Our concerns have been reported in a story in the Sunday Herald, and another will be in tomorrow's NZ Herald. Plus, there will beinterviews on Breakfast and Sunrise TV (Channels 1 and 3) at 7:10am.There will also be a radio interview on Radio Live Breakfast showand Barbara Cuthbert will be discussing the issue with John Banks onMorning Report at 8.10.

and then a couple of days later with news updates:
Tamaki Drive Crash Links to Media Reports and Interviews

MONDAY 28 SEPTEMBER – morning

1) TVNZ Breakfast: Ensuring Safer Roads for Cyclists. Interview with Barbara Insull (Secretary, Cycle Action Auckland)

http://tvnz.co.nz/breakfast-news/breakfast-monday-september-28-3022620/video?vid=3022708

2) TV3: Can Cyclists and Drivers Exist Harmoniously? Interview with Barbara Cuthbert (Deputy Chair Cycle Action Auckland)
http://www.3news.co.nz/Can-cyclists-and-drivers-exist-harmoniously-/tabid/572/articleID/122980/cat/525/Default.aspx

http://www.3news.co.nz/Home/Story/tabid/209/articleID/122980/cat/525/Default.aspx

National Radio: Morning Report: ran two items: (3) Cycling Advocate Calls for Speed Limit on Tamaki Drive: interview with Barbara Cuthbert and John Banks, (4) Injured City Cyclist in Critical but Stable Condition. Background including comment from John Wilmer, BikeNZ
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport

5) NZ Herald: Push to Lower Speed Limit After Crash
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10600013

6) Herald on Sunday: Cyclist Critical After Tamaki Drive “Carnage”
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10599817
BFM Radio also interviewed Barbara Cuthbert on Monday morning.

Members of the public contributed opinions on the issues to radio and newspaper forums, including:

7) NZ Herald: What Can be Done to Make Cycling Safer?
http://blogs.nzherald.co.nz/blog/your-views/2009/9/27/what-can-be-done-make-cycling-new-zealand-safer/?c_id=1&objectid=10599925&commentpage=2

MONDAY 28 SEPTEMBER – afternoon and evening

8) TV3 Campbell Live: Auckland – A Cyclist's Nightmare.(Mon 28 Sept)Interview with members of Pickled Peddlers group. . Also interview with Bicycle NSW CEO Alex Unwin about conditions for cyclists in Sydney.
http://www.3news.co.nz/Auckland---a-cyclists-nightmare/tabid/367/articleID/123107/cat/221/Default.aspx

9)National Radio: Afternoons Jim Mora: Interview with Glen Koorey (CAN Co-Chair) http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/afternoons

10) RadioLIVE Drive show with Maggie Barry: Interview with Barbara Cuthbert (not sure if audio available)
http://www.radiolive.co.nz/OnairHosts/MaggieBarry/tabid/371/Default.aspx

And that's a selection. There have been some truly horrible letters. The one I saw was written by someone from Waitakere who basically said that cycling was like smoking - both bad for your health - both private choices - take the consequences..... It is amazing when this happens. But I see it the world over. Make a change and there is always a proportion of the population who can be relied upon to react in the most vicious and emotional way. I would ask you to - this is not over till it's over - to go on the NZ Herald blog about this and add your views to the debate....

http://blogs.nzherald.co.nz/blog/your-views/2009/9/27/what-can-be-done-make-cycling-new-zealand-safer/?c_id=97&objectid=10600143#message
3. My favourite cycling videos

This one's in Devonport, North Shore.
It's got better. But can you can see this has to be the idea of a traffic engineer having a joke at cyclist's expense....

And this one's in Copenhagen.
I just put the camera down and let it run for a while.
The cycling speaks for itself....

Did you like these?
4) Cycle Petition
This petition is for everybody who believes that cycle infrastructure - which allocates road space to cyclists - is an essential step in making cycling safer in Auckland. The lane is on Lake Road between Devonport and Takapuna. It is unfinished, but soon will be. Please follow the instructions below and go there, and add your name.
Dear fellow cyclists

The Lake Rd cycle lanes are under threat again. Responding to a group of Devonport residents who wrongly believe the cycle lanes cause motorist delay, North Shore City Council is reviewing whether the cycle lanes should be removed.

We need to send a strong message to North Shore City Council to let them know the cycle lanes MUST stay. Please help us by signing the on-line petition, and forwarding this email to your friends and colleagues, especially if they live on the Shore. You could also add the petition link to your Facebook page, send a tweet, or anything else you can think of to get the word out.

Sign the petition at: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/lakeroadcyclelane/

Read more about the Lake Rd cycle lanes on Cycle Action's website: http://www.caa.org.nz/

Thanks in advance.

Cycle Action Auckland
So go to it, if you haven't already.
Remember, you can tell how civilised a city is, by the amount of cycling.
Showing posts with label Copenhagen. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Copenhagen. Show all posts

Tuesday, December 8, 2009

Making Sense of Emission Trading

At last there is real effort being made by media to understand Climate Change and one of the mechanisms proposed to deal with it: Emissions Trading. There seems to me a sea change happening. The public want to know more. They want to understand more.

It's good that PM Key is off to Copenhagen.
And it's good that China and the USA seem to have made significant decisions about their response to Climate Change just days before Copenhagen. All good.

I guess I've always been something of a skeptic. An Emissions Trading Sceptic. From time to time I'll run something here that throws a bit of light on the subject. In this blog I'll try to explain what emissions trading is (using stuff from the experts), and introduce some of the difficulties:

Explanation of Emissions Trading

This comes from an Australian economist writer for several Aussie newspapers. Peter Martin. It's a helpful explanation of how it might work for power stations in Australia....

"...To simplify, let’s suppose that the only emitters of carbon in Australia are power stations. Lets say that this year they have been emitting 100 units each.

If an emissions licensing and trading scheme were introduced next year the government might only hand out enough licences to allow the emission of 90 units.

Obviously each power station could comply if it cut its emissions by 10 per cent. It would be the same as if the government had legislated for a station-by-station 10 per cent cut.

But it would be a bad way of cutting total emissions by 10 per cent. Some power stations would find it difficult if not impossible to meet the10 per cent cut. They would be crippled. Others might find it easy. At little cost they might even be able to cut by 20 per cent.

Without trading in permits the stations that found it hard to cut would suffer, while the stations that could easily cut by more than required would be given no reason to do so.

Trading removes those problems. In the language of the economists, whatever the target for cutting emissions is, trading allows industry to meet it in the least damaging way possible.

Here’s how. A firm that can easily cut its emissions (perhaps because its coal-fired generator is nearing the end of its life and it can easily be replaced with a wind one) will find it has permits to spare. It might have been issued nine but only need seven, having two to sell.

Another firm, that can’t cut emissions without incurring a tremendous cost will find it cheaper to buy spare permits from the firm that no longer needs them. Its cost of producing power will go up but by nowhere near as much as it would have had it had no choice but to meet a target. Over time that firm will find that business case for switching to cleaner technology increasingly persuasive. But not all at once.

The firm that can easily cut emissions will have discovered a new way of making money, and the cleaner it makes its business the more money it will make. As a former Liberal Party leader used to say, it will become “incentivated”.

That’s the theory. It was put to the test in 1990 in the United States when President George Bush senior signed into law a new act designed to combat acid rain, caused by the emission of sulphur.

In a sharp break with the approach of the past the Bush administration issued annual permits to allow the continued emission of sulphur, but not quite as much as before. Then it encouraged the Chicago Board of Trade to set up an exchange on which those permits could be traded.

Each year the administration handed out fewer annual permits. Over ten years the price of a permit on the exchange climbed from $US100 to $US800 a ton. The polluters who could cut back easily found themselves rich. Those that couldn’t found business increasingly expensive — but not so expensive as to force them out of business straight away.

Over that decade sulphur emissions halved throughout the US. In some parts of the country acid rain declined 25 per cent. The annual saving in healthcare costs was said to top $US20 billion.

That’s the promise held out the promoters of emissions trading schemes for carbon.
Any the wiser? I hope so. Now here's a few comments from the other side. I quite like this one from John Blakeley that appeared in NZ Herald 19th November this year. He writes:
Carbon Trading: an indulgence we can't afford. He asks why parts of NZ's economy should be given credits for their sins of emission. "....Michael Kinsley, writing in Time Magazine in an article entitled: 'Credit for bad behaviour' in July 2007, suggested that the purchase of carbon credits to offset greenhouse gas emissions could be compared with the Middle Ages practice of buying indulgences for the forgiveness of sins. Martin Luther King (1487-1546) was a leader of the Protestant Reformation in Germany. His idea of revolt occurred when he saw indulgences being sold, a practice he openly condemned - leading to his eventually being excommunicated. In a similar manner to indulgences, purchasing carbon credits to offset greenhouse gas emssions can be seen as an alternative to making the hard decisions to reduce emissions. It is much easier for politicians to tell people they must pay a little extra for their electricity and petrol than to try and persuade them that they must cut back on their energy use...."

"...So from July 1, 2010, we will be asked to pay more for our electricity and petrol for a scheme which is likely to have no effect on reducing our gross greenhouse gas emissions. And it is unlikely that the average consumer is going to be happy to pay this extra cost as "indulgence money", especially at a time of considerable constraint on wage increases...."

"...I believe that it is now time to "go back to square one" and start again, to define the best, most cost-effective way for New Zealand to control future increases in greenhouse gas emissions. Purchasing indulgences by way of carbon credits is not the best way to go." (John Blakeley is a programme director in the Department of Civil Engineering at Unitec in Auckland.)


That's an interesting argument. It's one I feel empathy with because - for me - the important thing has to be actual reductions in carbon emissions. Not just some scheme which has got the banks, financiers, money lenders and economists all in a lather. Some of the other arguments are more sophisticated and go to the heart of actually implementing emissions trading. There is some very interesting information in Wikipedia for example (whose entries seem to be changing minute by minute as Copenhagen approaches) :

Emissions Trading Scheme Critics

Critics argue that emissions trading does little to solve pollution problems overall, since groups that do not pollute sell their conservation to the highest bidder. Overall reductions would need to come from a sufficient reduction of allowances available in the system....

Critics of carbon trading, such as Carbon Trade Watch, argue that it places disproportionate emphasis on individual lifestyles and carbon footprints, distracting attention from the wider, systemic changes and collective political action that needs to be taken to tackle climate change. Groups such as the Corner House have argued that the market will choose the easiest means to save a given quantity of carbon in the short term, which may be different to the pathway required to obtain sustained and sizable reductions over a longer period, and so a market-led approach is likely to reinforce technological lock-in. For instance, small cuts may often be achieved cheaply through investment in making a technology more efficient, where larger cuts would require scrapping the technology and using a different one. They also argue that emissions trading is undermining alternative approaches to pollution control with which it does not combine well, and so the overall effect it is having is to actually stall significant change to less polluting technologies....

The Financial Times published an article about cap-and-trade systems which argued that "Carbon markets create a muddle" and "...leave much room for unverifiable manipulation"...


And it is the mechanics of manipulation and actual implementation that make interesting reading as well. From wikipedia again:


Measuring, reporting and verification (MRV)

Meaningful emission reductions within a trading system can only occur if they can be measured at the level of operator or installation and reported to a regulator.... For greenhouse gases all trading countries maintain an inventory of emissions at national and installation level; in addition, the trading groups within North America maintain inventories at the state level through The Climate Registry. For trading between regions these inventories must be consistent, with equivalent units and measurement techniques.

In some industrial processes emissions can be physically measured by inserting sensors and flowmeters in chimneys and stacks, but many types of activity rely on theoretical calculations for measurement. Depending on local legislation, these measurements may require additional checks and verification by government or third party auditors, prior or post submission to the local regulator.....

Enforcement

Another significant, yet troublesome aspect is enforcement. Without effective MRV and enforcement the value of allowances are diminished. Enforcement can be done using several means, including fines or sanctioning those that have exceeded their allowances. Concerns include the cost of MRV and enforcement and the risk that facilities may be tempted to mislead rather than make real reductions or make up their shortfall by purchasing allowances or offsets from another entity. The net effect of a corrupt reporting system or poorly managed or financed regulator may be a discount on emission costs, and a (hidden) increase in actual emissions.


So, going back to the Aussie economist's simple example, someone would have to actually measure what comes out of the exhaust chimneys of each of these power stations. All the time. And keep detailed records. And these measurements would need to be credible and independent. It's the whole thing about verification. The devil in emissions trading is in the implementation detail. Sounds good to economists, but becomes more and more of a practical nightmare the closer you get to nuts and bolts implementation.

Imagine doing it with cows!

That's enough for now. Just to get your interest, and perhaps suggestions for further explanation or "making simple"....

Sunday, October 4, 2009

Toward Better Cycling in Auckland...




The Tamaki accident has galvanised action and attention around cycling in Auckland. I will not try to add much to that in this blog, but I will provide a few bits and pieces:

1) the media info pulled together by Mark Bracey for Cycle Action Auckland (who have been doing a magnificent job through this period. Congratulations.)
2) a couple of nice cycling pics from Copenhagen (above)
3) two video clips about cycling I shot and put up on youtube a while ago
4) .... and you MUST go and add your name to the Lake Road cycling lane petition (see bottom).

1) Cycle Action and Tamaki Drive

The team at Cycle Action Auckland have been very busy. Barb Cuthbert (Deputy Chair CAA) and Barb Insull (Secretary CAA) have been highly active in the media, and it has been excellent to see would-be-super-mayor John Banks put on the spot on this critical issue. Here are some bits and pieces:

27 Sept: Our thoughts and best wishes go out to the cyclists and the families of the victims of the accident on Tamaki Drive on Saturday.This is an all too familiar tale that many of us are acutely aware of. As "the voice for cyclists" in Auckland, Cycle Action has been active this weekend in ensuring that the people who choose to cycle are fairly represented.Our concerns have been reported in a story in the Sunday Herald, and another will be in tomorrow's NZ Herald. Plus, there will beinterviews on Breakfast and Sunrise TV (Channels 1 and 3) at 7:10am.There will also be a radio interview on Radio Live Breakfast showand Barbara Cuthbert will be discussing the issue with John Banks onMorning Report at 8.10.

and then a couple of days later with news updates:
Tamaki Drive Crash Links to Media Reports and Interviews

MONDAY 28 SEPTEMBER – morning

1) TVNZ Breakfast: Ensuring Safer Roads for Cyclists. Interview with Barbara Insull (Secretary, Cycle Action Auckland)

http://tvnz.co.nz/breakfast-news/breakfast-monday-september-28-3022620/video?vid=3022708

2) TV3: Can Cyclists and Drivers Exist Harmoniously? Interview with Barbara Cuthbert (Deputy Chair Cycle Action Auckland)
http://www.3news.co.nz/Can-cyclists-and-drivers-exist-harmoniously-/tabid/572/articleID/122980/cat/525/Default.aspx

http://www.3news.co.nz/Home/Story/tabid/209/articleID/122980/cat/525/Default.aspx

National Radio: Morning Report: ran two items: (3) Cycling Advocate Calls for Speed Limit on Tamaki Drive: interview with Barbara Cuthbert and John Banks, (4) Injured City Cyclist in Critical but Stable Condition. Background including comment from John Wilmer, BikeNZ
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport

5) NZ Herald: Push to Lower Speed Limit After Crash
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10600013

6) Herald on Sunday: Cyclist Critical After Tamaki Drive “Carnage”
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10599817
BFM Radio also interviewed Barbara Cuthbert on Monday morning.

Members of the public contributed opinions on the issues to radio and newspaper forums, including:

7) NZ Herald: What Can be Done to Make Cycling Safer?
http://blogs.nzherald.co.nz/blog/your-views/2009/9/27/what-can-be-done-make-cycling-new-zealand-safer/?c_id=1&objectid=10599925&commentpage=2

MONDAY 28 SEPTEMBER – afternoon and evening

8) TV3 Campbell Live: Auckland – A Cyclist's Nightmare.(Mon 28 Sept)Interview with members of Pickled Peddlers group. . Also interview with Bicycle NSW CEO Alex Unwin about conditions for cyclists in Sydney.
http://www.3news.co.nz/Auckland---a-cyclists-nightmare/tabid/367/articleID/123107/cat/221/Default.aspx

9)National Radio: Afternoons Jim Mora: Interview with Glen Koorey (CAN Co-Chair) http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/afternoons

10) RadioLIVE Drive show with Maggie Barry: Interview with Barbara Cuthbert (not sure if audio available)
http://www.radiolive.co.nz/OnairHosts/MaggieBarry/tabid/371/Default.aspx

And that's a selection. There have been some truly horrible letters. The one I saw was written by someone from Waitakere who basically said that cycling was like smoking - both bad for your health - both private choices - take the consequences..... It is amazing when this happens. But I see it the world over. Make a change and there is always a proportion of the population who can be relied upon to react in the most vicious and emotional way. I would ask you to - this is not over till it's over - to go on the NZ Herald blog about this and add your views to the debate....

http://blogs.nzherald.co.nz/blog/your-views/2009/9/27/what-can-be-done-make-cycling-new-zealand-safer/?c_id=97&objectid=10600143#message
3. My favourite cycling videos

This one's in Devonport, North Shore.
It's got better. But can you can see this has to be the idea of a traffic engineer having a joke at cyclist's expense....

And this one's in Copenhagen.
I just put the camera down and let it run for a while.
The cycling speaks for itself....

Did you like these?
4) Cycle Petition
This petition is for everybody who believes that cycle infrastructure - which allocates road space to cyclists - is an essential step in making cycling safer in Auckland. The lane is on Lake Road between Devonport and Takapuna. It is unfinished, but soon will be. Please follow the instructions below and go there, and add your name.
Dear fellow cyclists

The Lake Rd cycle lanes are under threat again. Responding to a group of Devonport residents who wrongly believe the cycle lanes cause motorist delay, North Shore City Council is reviewing whether the cycle lanes should be removed.

We need to send a strong message to North Shore City Council to let them know the cycle lanes MUST stay. Please help us by signing the on-line petition, and forwarding this email to your friends and colleagues, especially if they live on the Shore. You could also add the petition link to your Facebook page, send a tweet, or anything else you can think of to get the word out.

Sign the petition at: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/lakeroadcyclelane/

Read more about the Lake Rd cycle lanes on Cycle Action's website: http://www.caa.org.nz/

Thanks in advance.

Cycle Action Auckland
So go to it, if you haven't already.
Remember, you can tell how civilised a city is, by the amount of cycling.