I took heaps of notes because the questions and answers were really interesting. But because I had missed some of the day before, I hadn’t totally caught up with the fact that the court room seemed rather empty. Nor why.
Then it dawned. The other ESL expert witnesses had been ordered from the Court by Judge Smith. They were not allowed to hear the questions being asked of the witnesses, nor their answers. And they were ordered not to talk among themselves at other times.
“What if they read my blog?” - I thought. Quite a few do, there’s a lot pf public interest, and I have set up a FaceBook page....
"What if I report the questions and answers – because I think it is in the public interest?"
"There has been no guidance from the Judge. I am a sort of informal reporter...."
There has been no ruling that media be excluded from the Court.
So here's a taste. WA’s lawyer cross examined Dolan:
Q: Who instructed you?Judge Smith got interested then:
A: It was verbal. Mr Lobb.
Q: Not in writing?
A: No.
Q: What did he say to you, and when?…
Q: How did you report to Mr Lobb?Judge Smith wanted to know why specific emails were not to hand, and persisted:
A: …
Q: You said you would look in your files.
A: I drafted a submission for Mr Lobb.
Q: Did you sign it?
A: No. Someone else signed it….
Q: You were asked – I know I didn’t order you – you said you would – I didn’t think I had to - to bring all ESL files with you today. What have you brought and not brought?And later, after Dolan spoke of mediation meetings with Watercare and with South Epsom Planning Group, Judge Smith asked:
A: Sorry your honour...
Q: …..were you aware that were statutorily barred from getting involved with a Third Party…?At this point Kirkpatrick, legal counsel for ESL stood up and submitted: “there is no basis for that question…”.
Judge Smith then reminded Dolan, “you are Person ‘A’. Person ‘A’ must not talk with Person ‘C’. (BTW – you can see a little more about this part of the RMA – s.308 - in a recent blog below.)
Kirkpatrick again got to his feet and submitted, “....this does not stop communications between parties…”
I will stop there. Just wanted to give you a flavour.
Who says the Environment Court's not adversarial?
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