tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763366316092865103.post8445714255990625360..comments2023-08-26T01:09:07.337+12:00Comments on Reflections on Auckland Planning: Reasons Unitary Plan on RocksJoel Cayfordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18333945842340425946noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763366316092865103.post-12746869984754198022013-09-12T09:34:31.768+12:002013-09-12T09:34:31.768+12:00Frank McRae left an excellent posting, which calls...Frank McRae left an excellent posting, which calls for a response. Here's his comment - with my responses in brackets....<br /><br />"There is an inherent contradiction in the idea that market forces is the way to drive intensification on the one hand, and the need to regulate those same forces so that existing private property owners don't have their value(s) threatened or reduced.&Joel Cayfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18333945842340425946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763366316092865103.post-73348943622818774432013-09-08T19:44:40.741+12:002013-09-08T19:44:40.741+12:00Joal - thanks for this. I enjoy reading your comme...Joal - thanks for this. I enjoy reading your commentary and getting a feel for what is happening in Auckland. Keep it up.<br />Regards<br />Ann PrendergastAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763366316092865103.post-12216964774117859512013-09-05T14:01:29.449+12:002013-09-05T14:01:29.449+12:00"There is an inherent contradiction in the id..."There is an inherent contradiction in the idea that market forces is the way to drive intensification on the one hand, and the need to regulate those same forces so that existing private property owners don't have their value(s) threatened or reduced."<br /><br />Joel - How is that a contradiction? Nearly all regulation is an attempt to place some limits on free market forces in Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763366316092865103.post-77991045055610642832013-09-05T13:29:57.907+12:002013-09-05T13:29:57.907+12:00Dushko
"But let me repeat here that a ‘balan...Dushko<br /><br />"But let me repeat here that a ‘balanced’ plan would have been one that would have proposed four categories of land - urban, suburban, periurban, exurban – instead of only two (urban, rural), and a roughly equal share among them in receiveing the future growth – about 25% each."<br /><br />It doesn't sound like you have looked at the Unitary Plan. It has a range ofAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763366316092865103.post-62532042019268172492013-09-05T00:36:54.968+12:002013-09-05T00:36:54.968+12:00Joel, thanks very much for this report.
I agree w...Joel, thanks very much for this report.<br /><br />I agree with you that:<br />‘The balance has not been struck… and that is [the] fundamental flaw’.<br />but I have a different ‘balance’ in mind and a different idea of ‘fundamental’ in this case. <br /><br />The balance that has not been struck is the one at the beginning of the whole process, almost 3 years ago. From the outset the council Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763366316092865103.post-86710040959013417512013-09-04T14:12:43.780+12:002013-09-04T14:12:43.780+12:00A response to Frank McRae's comment/question.....A response to Frank McRae's comment/question....<br /><br />There is an inherent contradiction in the idea that market forces is the way to drive intensification on the one hand, and the need to regulate those same forces so that existing private property owners don't have their value(s) threatened or reduced. <br /><br />Because this contradiction exists, then it needs to be provided forJoel Cayfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18333945842340425946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763366316092865103.post-37924971431447010222013-09-04T13:32:36.749+12:002013-09-04T13:32:36.749+12:00International best practice engagement? This seems...International best practice engagement? This seems to set the bar pretty low, many provisions have been completely reshaped/ rewritten at the last minute by Councillors against the recommendations of officers and in direct contradiction to submissions from the public. For the most part, the public engagement processes only benefit is that it will provide the text for Council to use in their s32 Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763366316092865103.post-85278774761397115422013-09-04T10:57:26.130+12:002013-09-04T10:57:26.130+12:00Thanks for the summary Joel. I just have one quest...Thanks for the summary Joel. I just have one question:<br /><br />"The balance has not been struck in the draft unitary plan provisions for the mixed housing zone, and that is its fundamental flaw."<br /><br />I don't understand what you mean by saying the balance has not been struck. Are you saying there should be even more restrictions on what can be developed in this zone in Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763366316092865103.post-58624525455739835662013-09-04T10:22:46.071+12:002013-09-04T10:22:46.071+12:00One important comment you failed to include is tha...One important comment you failed to include is that much of what happened was also politically motivated. It is election time in a few weeks. High Rise Hartley being a typical example. She publicly praised the intensification and high rise all through the process, got booed severely at a very large meeting for her views, knowing many other candidates especially one in particular that was very Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com