tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763366316092865103.post705146718806159060..comments2023-08-26T01:09:07.337+12:00Comments on Reflections on Auckland Planning: PT Plan: Unaffordable for Auckland, Unavailable to Many Joel Cayfordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18333945842340425946noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763366316092865103.post-57488313282084664952014-06-29T23:00:47.412+12:002014-06-29T23:00:47.412+12:00The section from britomart to aotea could be built...The section from britomart to aotea could be built first. While not giving any benefit to throughput or connecting to the west, it would add a central queen st station. <br />In my view, construction of the entire crl should begin straight away. <br />The government funded the entire wellington train system, its aucklands turn. Hopeless bcr projects like transmission gully & holiday Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763366316092865103.post-17456273218965574912014-06-27T18:25:32.249+12:002014-06-27T18:25:32.249+12:00There seems to be a lot of discussion, about Preci...There seems to be a lot of discussion, about Precinct, and I see they seem to have overcome all council objections, and now have QE II square sewn up.<br /><br />To put this in reverse, why doesn't Auckland perform a compulsory purchase on the precinct site instead, so that staging is a non issue, and the city can profit from the additional space, where it's ideal, and when the time comesL Herberthttps://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004439324944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763366316092865103.post-61064240378214343872014-06-27T10:39:57.148+12:002014-06-27T10:39:57.148+12:00It makes sense to do the section of the CRL under ...It makes sense to do the section of the CRL under Precinct when they do their own redevelopment.<br /><br />However, any staging other than that is not very useful as it provides no benefit (the CRL can't be used while half-complete) while ensuring large-scale disruption to the CBD for a longer period.Mikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763366316092865103.post-61878892343137458492014-06-27T10:00:48.945+12:002014-06-27T10:00:48.945+12:00Phil. I don't agree with you on this. Transpor...Phil. I don't agree with you on this. TransportBlog is a supporter of a shift in transport spending toward PT and sustainable modes, and away from more motorways and road widening projects. I support that approach. JoelJoel Cayfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18333945842340425946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763366316092865103.post-15130835416384412422014-06-27T09:30:43.342+12:002014-06-27T09:30:43.342+12:00Matt L and his anonymous side kick from the Green ...Matt L and his anonymous side kick from the Green Taliban would have Aucklanders indebted to every mad capped PT initiative imagined. Billions on the CRL - hundreds of millions on the Selfishpath - a never ending spend on making roads narrower and replacing parking with inner city sub standard accommodation. Brown has abused the budget in the same way he abused the office of mayor - self Phil Moorenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763366316092865103.post-21049781075446972832014-06-25T10:59:37.192+12:002014-06-25T10:59:37.192+12:00You are wrong to say that CRL is unaffordable - we...You are wrong to say that CRL is unaffordable - we cannot afford not to do it. <br />The actual construction cost is about $1.8 billion - the $2.8 billion figure includes extra rolling stock and other network improvements plus a decades worth of inflation (unlike all other projects the costing was given in 2022 dollars rather than 2012 dollars). So if the super city has to find half of that Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763366316092865103.post-28074009690753442112014-06-24T14:50:20.330+12:002014-06-24T14:50:20.330+12:00Hotel you are wrong to insinuate we think the CRL ...Hotel you are wrong to insinuate we think the CRL should be delayed. Quite the opposite needs to be prioritised and is the most important project. Far more valuable than a tram up queen st. Matt Lhttp://transportblog.co.nz/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763366316092865103.post-55597123865722396222014-06-24T12:41:54.171+12:002014-06-24T12:41:54.171+12:00Cam. The mid-course I am suggesting is that the CR...Cam. The mid-course I am suggesting is that the CRL project be staged. Which I accept will cost more overall for the CRL - but would enable other PT priorities to be funded and constructed. This would enable the downtown precinct redevelopment to proceed, and for the CRL to get started. The situation would be different if a Government was elected that supported PT and chose to delay or defer Joel Cayfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18333945842340425946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763366316092865103.post-15139974811300324032014-06-24T12:29:11.420+12:002014-06-24T12:29:11.420+12:00Interesting post joel, I just have one comment - i...Interesting post joel, I just have one comment - it seems the CRL or earlier incarnations has always been put on the back burner because of new projects/ priorities relative to the projected cost. If we adopt your proposition and continue to delay the CRL what impact will this have on construction costs - will the additional costs be greater than the investments in other parts of the PT network? Camnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763366316092865103.post-12263706424367395452014-06-24T11:59:20.965+12:002014-06-24T11:59:20.965+12:00Here's another question about the CRL. The Br...Here's another question about the CRL. The Britomart end is close to the sea, and some sea level rise is now inevitable. How sure can we be that this colossal investment isn't going to be unusable in a few years' time?<br /><br />I like your trams idea, but I have an uneasy feeling that the present bus station is actually in the right place, close to both ferry and train.<br /><br /Lawrence Cnoreply@blogger.com